Nova Chairs-7 

2005年09月06日(火) 0時18分

E says:
The environment in Vietnam is hazardous no matter how careful you are. The environment at Nova is hazardous if you are lazy. That is the difference. B is blaming Nova for his laziness. He doesn't want to accept responsibility himself for something which is bad. Classic attribution theory.
D says:
If you are cautious in Vietnam, you can avoid the problems which many soldiers have. The lazy soldiers will sustain injuries.
E says:
Whatever. This isn't interesting for me anymore.
D says::
ok
E says:
I am not going to be convinced that Nova is responsible.
D says:
I think the point I needed to emphasize (sorry for dragging this on) is that out of 15 teachers about 5 have bad backs. I think statistics determine if people have reasonable control over the situation or not.
Basically, I agree that one-off injuries are usually the individuals fault due to laziness etc, but when the numbers are larger (like in very hazardous environment, like Vietnam) the environment is to blame. The unresolved issue (for me) is where exactly on that scale does the `Nova back injuries` issue lie.
D says:
You there?

Nova Chairs-6 

2005年08月31日(水) 6時50分

D says:
I remember thinking like you, but my thoughts have evolved just like the industrial revolution. I used to think if you agreed to go to war, and came back wounded the country owed you nothing.
E says:
War is completely different. Again, a different thing, you can't just pull out dramatic comparisons that are completely unrelated to the situation we are talking about.
D says:
We are talking about taking on a job which has a hazardous environment.
E says:
We are talking about problems that you can avoid by being sensible. In war, you cannot avoid the problems. People are shooting at you.
D says:
I said before.......forget about the bullets.
Emil says:
The environment is only hazardous when you are lazy - it is your fault.
D says:
Vietnam? I agree. Keep your feet dry, wash properly, use clean utensils and don't be lazy!!!

Nova Chairs-5 

2005年08月30日(火) 4時51分

D says:
I think this comes down to one question. If given cheap, poorly designed chairs which don't match the tables and forced to sit in them for 6 -7 hours a day, can everyone prevent back injuries?
Emil says:
Yes. Sit properly. It isn't complicated.
D says:
Your opinion is clear, but do most people agree with you?
Emil says:
I think they would if they liked the company, but most people hate the company, so they want to blame it for all their problems.
D says:
It think walking in Roppongi at night isn't dangerous but if I have a problem or get attacked my attitude will change. You don't have a bad back so you won't imagine that a cheap little chair can cause damage to your back until it does.
E says:
No, walking in Roppongi accepts certain risks. You can't avoid the risk factor. But you can avoid the risks of getting a bad back by sitting properly.

Nova Chairs-4 

2005年08月28日(日) 17時23分
D says:
You can tell soldiers not to get shot, but in the process of doing their job their environment will be more important than their `laziness` in determining whether they receive injuries or not.
Emil says:
Different thing. People are trying to kill the soldiers in a war. It doesn't matter how hard you try to avoid it, there is a high chance that you could get shot in a skirmish.
But at Nova, no-one is trying to give anyone a bad back. B's attitude seems to be to walk unarmed into an Iraqi camp, and then get pissed off with the army when someone shoots him.
D says::
Forget about the bullets for a minute. Think about soldiers in Vietnam. It's YOUR responsibility to look after your health. If you're lazy and you get sick it's your (the soldier's) fault. Agreed?
E says:
Different again.
You are trying to draw the most absurd parallels between someone agreeing to put their life on the line, in placing themselves in unsanitary conditions with someone who can't sit properly.
D says:
OK. Did YOU sit with correct posture all the time while at Nova?
E says:
No, but if I had got a back problem, I would blame myself.
D says:
If you thought that 5 years at Nova gave you permanent damage to your back and you thought that if you hadn't worked at Nova you wouldn't have back problems, you would feel that Nova's decision to buy cheap chairs for teachers was ok?
E says:
No I wouldn't feel that, but it doesn't mean that I would be right.
Because it isn't the chairs that damage the back, it is bad posture.

Nova Chairs-3 

2005年08月28日(日) 4時51分
D says:
Why do most teacher hate Nova?
E says:
Because Nova treats them badly. Low salaries compared to other schools, no preparation time,boring textbooks, difficulties getting holidays sometimes, weird policies, being sent on help shifts all over the place, getting harrassed by inexperienced egotistical people who have got promotions by ass-kissing, crap chairs, etc...
D says:
Just like when we were talking about this the other day, J pointed out that you were sitting with bad posture.
Emil says:
I don't have any back problems related to bad posture.
D says:
All people will naturally slump into a bad posture with badly designed furniture, right?
Emil says:
No, they will slump if they are lazy. It isn't difficult to sit up. C and W do it all day in their office without any problems. It isn't difficult, but people are lazy.
D says:
So basically you're agreeing that if you put 100 teachers in Nova for 2 years, a few or a dozen of them will get a bad back. Compared to zero people in a company which provides comfortable office chairs.
Emil says:
If they don't look after themselves, that is a possibility. But it is isn't the company's responsibility to look after your back, it is YOUR responsibility to look after your back.
D says:
I think Nova's choice to go for the cheapest chairs possible and ignore the few teachers per school who have back problems is irresponsible.
Emil says:
Well, I think the few teachers who give themselves back problems by not sitting properly are responsible. And complaining to the company is classic attribution theory. It's silly.

Nova Chairs-2 

2005年08月25日(木) 0時23分
D says:
`Easier` IS the key word. They buy decent office chairs for the pencil pushers in the head office in Nishi Shinjuku. Why not look after teachers too?
E says:
Ah, so now the company has a responsibility to buy nice chairs for everyone. I don't think that is reasonable. If they want to, they can. But complaining about the chairs is just the same as complaining about the food in a cafetieria in an office.
D says:
Yes. If the food makes them sick, they should complain.
E says:
The company is providing chairs. They are not inhumane, they are just chairs. Sit properly, and you won't have a problem. Sit badly, and you'll get a bad back.
So sit properly. There are a million things to complain about at Nova, chairs are just another thing. People hate that company, so they'll complain about anything.

Nova Chairs-START 

2005年08月24日(水) 22時54分
D says:
You busy? Do you have time to chat on Skype for a few minutes?
E says:
Not really. Got to sleep at about 3:30 last night, absolutely hammered. Woke up at 9:00. Bit of a scare getting to work this morning. I don't have my headset here, left it in at home by accident.
D says:
Just quickly. I realized why so many Nova teachers have bad backs. It's not just because of the shitty 300yen chairs.
E says:
Why is that? From all the shagging students?
D says:
Nova introduced kidney shaped tables for 4 student classes
Naturally students sit on the larger side. Teachers sit on the small side of the kidney table.The legs have a big disk-shaped base so the cheap chairs can't be pulled close to the table's edge. Teachers have to lean way fwd to write. Every Nova teacher has terrible posture in class.
E says:
W sits on a swiss ball all day and doesn't have any problems with his back at all. I think it is because the teachers are lazy more than anything else.
D says:.....
Actually, the not so lazy teachers spend most of the lesson writing corrections for students so that means they have to lean fwd and down to the table.
.....laziness? . But, people aren't going to go to the trouble and think about their bad posture until they have a backache. I'd say 100% of new teachers will sit in bad postures while teaching. The question is `what can I do about it?`
E says:
Put up a sign telling people to sit properly.
D says:
Interesting suggestion. You're very interesting (not meaning sexy) man.
E says:
Cheers. ...I just don't have sympathy for people who try to blame others for things they do to themselves.
D says:
I used to think like that. Now I think companies have responsibilities.
E says:
I also think that companies have responsibilities, but it would be so much easier if people would just look after themselves.
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